Lukiiko says big 'no' to Kabaka-Museveni talks Print E-mail
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Written by Hussein Bogere   
Wednesday, 11 November 2009 21:16
The NRM government and Buganda Kingdom agree at least on one thing: Kabaka Ronald Mutebi II should not engage in “partisan politics.” But it became clear during the Lukiiko (Buganda’s Parliament) meeting on Monday that the two sides are at odds when it comes to defining what constitutes partisan politics.

Debating the September 30 private meeting between the President and the Kabaka at State House Entebbe, Lukiiko members opposed any direct talks between the Kabaka and the central government, saying Museveni was dragging the monarch into the murky waters of politics.

Although they said the Kabaka is free to talk to the President about personal issues, Lukiiko members object to Mutebi’s direct participation in discussions on issues such as federalism versus regional tier, the kingdom’s ancestral properties, and the Land (Amendment) Bill, 2007—issues they view as being political.

On the other hand, the central government that has often warned the Kabaka against involving himself in politics appears comfortable with the President directly engaging Mutebi on such political issues.   
Buganda Prime Minister (Katikkiro), John Baptist Walusimbi, told the Lukiiko that Kabaka’s participation was simply to soften the ground for real talks.

“Once the two leaders are done, then we, the people, will come in to discuss the finer issues. The Kabaka hasn’t gone to hold talks,” he said.

Monday’s Lukiiko session, which was hurriedly called to discuss the continued closure of the kingdom’s radio station, CBS, was the first since the September riots that killed more than 30 people. Many had hoped that the Katikkiro would brief the meeting about what the Kabaka and Museveni discussed in their closed door meeting at State House Entebbe on September 30.

But Walusimbi remained tight-lipped, saying he was not party to the talks between the two leaders and therefore had no details. That prompted many Lukiiko members to call a stop to such talks. “The Kabaka shouldn’t be left alone because he may be used by the President to achieve his own political motives. What is there to talk about between a cultural leader and a political leader?” asked Joyce Mpanga, the Buwekula County representative.

Most members who spoke reasoned that since the Kabaka is a cultural leader, it is improper for him to discuss politics with the President.
“The Kabaka never involves himself in talks directly. There is a committee in Mengo that is tasked with that and it is that committee that should engage in the talks,” said Joseph Balikuddembe, Buddu County representative.

“For how long will these talks go on? There seems to be no end in sight,” commented Noah Kiyimba, a representative of the youth.

The meeting was, however, inconclusive as neither the Speaker Musa Kaddu Ssemakula, nor the Katikkiro, called for resolutions. A kingdom official said that the Katikkiro had no choice but to toe a middle line.
“He didn’t have anything to do because he has to balance the act with government. You should remember that he is in talks over the opening of CBS. It is only understandable in the circumstances,” he said.

Ssemakula, on his part, said the resolutions would be drafted later. “As you are aware, resolutions in this Lukiiko are reached by consensus and not by show of hands. The Katikkiro will sit with the responsible minister and draft the resolutions,” Ssemakula explained. Walusimbi had earlier outlined the conditions for talks with the government.
 
The conditions include: the reopening of CBS and Radio Ssuubi, the unconditional release of all people held over the September riots, and making public issues the Kabaka and the President agreed on in their private meeting.

“If the above are put into place, they will go a long way in calming the tensions of the populace as well as encouraging the continuity of the talks between Mengo and the central government, which will be beneficial to Buganda and Uganda,” he said. The Lukiiko also moved a vote of thanks to the Kabaka and the Katikkiro for their steadfast leadership during Buganda’s challenging times, as well as giving a go-ahead for the Buganda Conference slated for December 17.

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BIG RELIEF
written by sekamwa , November 11, 2009

To see that atleast the lukiiko has joined who dismissed such talks before they even began. For startes am personally of the view that issues pertaining millions of people cant be discussed by only two people however intelligent.

But then matters are made worse when one of the men involved is more canning than any other living Ugandan.

THE UGANDA WE NEED
-one where all Ugandans are respected
-one where state resources are accessed by all Ugandans regardless of their political beliefs
-one where people are not penalised because of their political association

-one where all regions are developed propotionately
one where its a crime to steal from government coffers and culprits apprehended
-one where social resources are provided and accessed fairly

The list is endless but in one line THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE HAVE TODAY

FOR GOD AND MY COUNTRY



...
written by kabayekka , November 11, 2009

One does not see why the majority NRM democratically elected parliamentary representatives of the State of Buganda do not lobby for a new Presidential candidate for their party?

One hopes that as soon as the NRM-O delegates conference starts to sit soon, these sincere Baganda representatives will have made up their minds who should try to develop better the State of Buganda.

Their incumbent candidate needs to go back home and rest after serving their interests for quite a long time! The Lukiiko of Buganda one must be convinced by now that it has reached its best level of debate on all issues of NRM programmes. Kiringa kutuma mwaana kuluzzi nekisero!



M7 dug his Hole!
written by Musaazi Mulenga , November 11, 2009

When M7 was stopping the Kabaka from participating in Partisian politics, little did he know that the same hole he was digging for Buganda will come around to haunt him.

Is M7 so naive not to learn from history or are Ugandans so blind to an extent of being led by such unforeseeing leaders? M7 dug the hole that will finally burry him!!!



Kabaka Ronald Mutebi II should not engage in “partisan politics.
written by Willy Kaaro-Karungi , November 11, 2009

At last the lukiiko has seen the light at the end of the tunnel, that Museveni and his partisan politics is dividing Buganda,

''The NRM government and Buganda Kingdom agree at least on one thing: Kabaka Ronald Mutebi II should not engage in “partisan politics.''Kabaka Ronald Mutebi II should not engage in “partisan politics.
''NO MORE USELESS MEETING WITH MUSEVENI''.



MUSEVENI, WHY DID YOU APPOINT BUGANDA ROYALS INTO POLICAL POSITIONS?
written by Mayanja C , November 12, 2009

Museveni is a politician who has lots of dirty games to play to confuse the Kabaka and the Baganda for his own interests of ruling this country until Jesus comes back.

While he warns the Kabaka about engaging in party politics, he goes ahead to appoint members of the Royal family into political offices, these are; Princess Irene Ndagire, deputy Ugandan ambassador to Japan and Mr David Simbwa, a presidential advisor in charge of royal family affairs (Daily monitor 31 Oct 2009) .

These Royals have disagreed with our Kabaka sometimes questioning his authority.How can Museveni who claims to be bridging the gap between Mengo and his government appoint REBEL Royals to disturb Mengo?

Such Royals will not and donot represent the interests of Buganda because they donot agree with King Mutebi.

Secondly, we Baganda should also say a Big No between Kabaka and Museveni talks because the Kabaka is not a technical person to discuss Buganda property,Regional tier and Land bill issues.These issues require experts to engage the central government.

The Kabaka has so many educated and highly learnt individuals to do this work.So King Mutebi should be left alone to avoid confusing him by a power hungry fellow.

Thirdly, the Baganda have a stake in Buganda, they should be updated on what is going on in the talks.Such openness will help representatives involved in talks to get comments and views from people outside the talks.It will also help to avoid putting Buganda into confusion.

Remember NRM wants to win in these talks.But also Buganda wants the Biggest win because its claiming what belongs to her.
SABASAJJA AWANGALE



IN THIS WORLD WHO SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN POLITICS
written by PAT Byamugisha , November 12, 2009

Man is natuarally born a political animal. It hurts when people say the Kabaka should not involve in politics. Actually is it is hypoctrical for the NRM to think he only involves himself in politics when he does not agree with them.

When he is in agreement then there he has not involved himself in politics. Buganda was a state before and its political leader was the King, now how do you take that right away from him? Isnt it his right to be active in politics or not? The problem is manipulating all things to keep one in power to consolidate the loot/booty.



BRAVO Buganda Lukiiko
written by Stephen Kakooza , November 12, 2009

The 1955 Buganda Agreement bars the Kabaka from direct talks after the Governor Exiled Sir Edward Muteesa. Kabaka is a symbol of peace and that peace must be fought for by his subjects not him.

NRM like UPC are just indivudual organisations (NGOs) that can not hold a whole Buganda State at ransom. We should just prepare for a new federal state of Uganda by laying new strategies to take a lead in regime change or even talk to the rest of Uganda's regions other than wasting much ernergy with a failed regime or else you fall with it.

Museveni is very sectarian and very unhonest in talks, he only wants to read Kabaka's mind so that he counter his plans, the Lukiiko should not allow this to happen. The people of Buganda and Uganda should be prepared for a change for the better, which cannont come with this NRM regime.

Baganda should be prepared to know that the closer of CBS is intended to close their mounths and intimedate them to think that without Museveni the world will come to an END. I SAY NO UGANDA WILL BE BETTER.

Another regime will open our radio and am just waiting for "Ekivulu Kya CBS 2009", which must go ahead with or without the opeining of our Radio. The earlier you leave a failed marriage the better for your life.

Many people have lost their lives in attempts to force an understanding in a broken marriage,simply because they think that someone paid dowary or by just having children and a church ring will spare you under the hands of a partner who only wishes that you ought to have died yesterday.

That is the NRM and Museveni (read Otafiire). Anybody who does not think beyond Museveni is Buganda and Uganda's enermy NO.1



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written by Wing Commander Kapenzi , November 12, 2009

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh dear , what a heart m7 has , he has all planes palaces , money ,cars but cant still let 10 million ugandans have their radio back which was vandalised and forced off the air , the brutality and lack of feel displayed by m7 is un heard of in this digital age of year 2009 AD.

Soon Buganda will enjoy the freedoms denied to it by its fellow ''ugandans'' ,Buganda is a spirit and radios and Palaces of Mengo are physical symbols of this spirit , so m7 pass as many laws as you like even claim to own the moon but know for sure you will go with all you had and made of you Buganda will be here plus the curse that will follow all of you and of you .



Good Ugandans !!
written by ALEX , November 12, 2009

When i read all these articles you post on this blogg i really become so happy and optimistic. Anyone who touches my Kingdom will not be forgiven. If someone can not understand now then he will understand when he sees his own guard running away from him. Ugandans look at a better UGANDA in a few years to come. Thanks for the little you have made during these hard times of corruption. Soon you will see a Uganda we all need. When we ask for a better UGANDA then we are called enemies of the government. I thank GOD who put death to humans otherwise the world would still be tormented by Hitler. Keep the pressure and we shall see who wins. Why even elections in 2011? God bless you all my dear suffering Ugandans but keep the HOPE alive.


Kabaka for president
written by Maisha , November 12, 2009

what would happen if the kabaka stood for president?
Am no buganda but i would vote for him because i think his sense of responsibility is far superior to that of M7.
Maybe am naive.



No No to the manipulator
written by kizito , November 12, 2009

Let him hold talks with his yes men suck ups cheerleaders.Enough of the sweet nothings. We will survive and endure without M7


we should know the results btn kabaka and the president's meeting:
written by mutebi s peter , November 14, 2009

why? Becouse the old adage goes that
" when two elephants fight it the grass where their fight is that suffers."

You all know what happened in the september riots,property was lost lives lost and people are still in custody and some are still being hunted.



Kabaka for President? Get serious Maisha!
written by Magwara Mate , November 15, 2009

Maisha, I am myself not a Muganda but I think you are an enemy to Buganda. What you are suggesting is what finally will do the trick to end Buganda. You are luring the Kabakaship into a death trap. Leave the Baganda alone to determine the direction of their "things".


The Lukiiko was right.
written by Magwara Mate , November 15, 2009

The private talks between Museveni and Mutebi pertaining matters that affect the entire Uganda like forms of gov't, management of the capital city, Land, etc are a waste of time.

They are better handled by responsible organs like cabinet and finally by parliament. Do no sell Uganda.




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